Howard Stern on the Columbine Shooting:
"There were some really good-looking girls running out with their hands over their heads. Did those kids try to have sex with any of the good-looking girls? They didn't even do that? At least if you're going to kill yourself and kill all the kids, why wouldn't you have some sex? If I was going to kill some people, I'd take them out with sex."
By 'kids' he's refering to the shooters. He's wanting to know why they didn't rape their classmates while they were at it.
Rush Limbaugh on Feminism:
“Feminism was established to allow unattractive women easier access to the mainstream.”
Yeah, if by mainstream he means the right to vote, which is where Feminism started, and went on to equal rights like getting paid the same and not having to hand the money over to your husband or father and hope he'd give you some of it. And when he says the quote on film everyone laughs and then he starts mooing and calling women cows.
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The feminist movement was totally separate from the women's suffrage movement. The feminist movement in the US began as the women's liberation movement in the early/mid 60s (generally, 1964 is considered the beginning). What most people refer to as "feminism" today is the movement that grew from women's liberation, not the movement related to suffrage.
At no point during the women's liberation movement were women in the US required to hand their earnings over to a father or a husband in hopes that he'd let them have some of it. There may have been some dysfunctional relationships that worked that way--but I know some that work just the opposite today. They're still dysfunctional, not the norm...
Is this coming out of the "Women's & Gender Studies" course you referred to earlier? If so, they're dispensing a lot of garbage in lieu of facts.
Both Rush Limbaugh and Howard Stern speak in hyperbole, of course. That's the nature of radio and television, unfortunatey. I presume that Rush's point is that women's liberation/feminism was focused, in part, on separating the ideal of feminine appearance from societal recognition.
As for Howard Stern--his shtick is that he reduces everything to the most base, carnal, and sexual. If you've listened to Stern, you'd know that this is something he's done with almost every subject. I find Stern repugnant, but I don't see anything in the comment you cite that's out of character for him... this is the sort of stuff he does all the time.
i can't believe that howard stern's comment comes across so vulgar. it's like he would have encouraged them to rape people. why exactly is he still famous?
I disagree with you.
Feminism, as we're learning about it and as Wikipedia defines it is "an intellectual, philosophical and political movement aimed at equal rights and legal protection for women."
Just a paragraph below they mention that just one of the equal rights they've campaigned for is the vote. Maybe people don't think of Feminism as including Suffrage, but it does.
I agree that Rush's statement as having to do with separating appearance and society's recognition- but the way he's saying it that if you deserve social recognition you should have started out beautiful anyway. It's their fault for not. (and him with his double chins mooing about women looking like cows while a crowd of men laugh)
I don't care what Stern's attitude is, or what he's supposed to play on radio. There is no excuse for what he said. It amounted to 'it's not enough to kill your classmates, you need to rape them first or you've failed.'.
And just because he 'does it all the time' does not make it acceptable.
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